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post Jan 24 2010, 07:04 PM
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1. Accentuam suprematia bisericii locale deoarece aici se intampla, practic, misiunea. Aceasta inseamna ca acordam incredere liderilor bisericii locale. Toate deciziile si actiunile sunt cantarite prin prisma impactului lor asupra bisericii locale. In finantare, politici si sustinere, daca ceva nu imbunatateste sanatatea si misiunea bisericii locale, vom alege sa nu facem lucrul respectiv.

2. Punem pret pe oamenii pierduti, astfel ca facem orice ne sta in putere pentru a ne asigura ca bisericile locale sunt capabile sa ajunga la ei.

3. Punem pret pe eficienta organizationala, astfel ca resursele noastre sunt investite pentru atingerea scopurilor pe care ni le propunem. O anumita practica are valoare pentru noi doar daca lucreaza intru implinirea misiunii.

4. Punem pret pe o mentalitate a abundentei deoarece Dumnezeu rasplateste credinta si nu cunoaste limite. Visam, planuim si asteptam lucruri mari in directii in care vedem clar voia lui Dumnezeu.

5. Punem pret pe bucurie si optimism deoarece Dumnezeu va birui, iar a face parte dintr-o echipa castigatoare este "contagios". Credem ca bucuria si optimismul actioneaza ca un magnet.

6. Punem pret pe schimbare deoarece este singura constanta a unei organizatii de succes. O organizatie care nu-si schimba metodele isi schimba principiile, din moment ce mediul in care traim se schimba continuu.

7. Punem pret pe caracterul urgent al lucrarii noastre deoarece suntem implicati in cea mai importanta "afacere" din lume, iar timpul este scurt.

8. Ne pretuim unii pe altii si suntem hotarati sa aplicam Regula de Aur in toate relatiile pe care le avem.


Adaptare de Myosotis a unei idei generoase.


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post Jan 24 2010, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE (icsicsics @ Jan 24 2010, 09:04 PM) *
2. Punem pret pe oamenii pierduti, astfel ca facem orice ne sta in putere pentru a ne asigura ca bisericile locale sunt capabile sa ajunga la ei.


7. Punem pret pe caracterul urgent al lucrarii noastre deoarece suntem implicati in cea mai importanta "afacere" din lume, iar timpul este scurt.


scratchchin.gif am 2 observatii cel putin:

1. nu-mi place "oameni pierduti". cine stabileste daca cineva e pierdut ori ba? smile.gif

2. fara "timpul este scurt". prea mult rumegus in expresia asta.

nu-mi place nici "afacere" si cred ca am putea fi mai originali de atat naughty.gif . dar e un punct de pornire.
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post Apr 7 2010, 11:01 AM
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Din punctul meu de vedere, aceasta colectie de citate ar putea descrie foarte bine intentia forumului nostru. Ce ziceti? Corespunde si realitatii? smile.gif


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post Apr 7 2010, 12:05 PM
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Multumesc, Poli! smile.gif

Imi place indeosebi al treilea pasaj, adica acesta:

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This mode of study, called in Aramaic havruta ("fellowship"), turns text study into dialogue and makes books into tools for overcoming, not strengthening, isolation. It makes the tradition of rabbinic learning a powerful source of community cohesion, a source of speech rather than silence. This activity was usually called not "study" but "learning," and in every Jewish community an invitation to fellowship could take the form of the proposal "Let's learn together." The life of the mind and the life of society were thus made one....It seems to me that solitary study tends to seek meaning, while study be-havruta tends to look for implications. When we read by ourselves, and we are satisfied that we have understood, we naturally move on. But when "learning" is a kind of conversation, then there is always more to be said. The rate of progress is more leisurely, the depth of analysis more penetrating." - Robert Goldenberg, “Talmud” in Barry W. Holtz, ed., Back To The Sources׃ Reading the Classic Jewish Texts (1984; repr. New York: Simon & Schuster, 1992), 168-9.


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-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to his nephew Peter Carr, from Paris, August 10, 1787; Merrill D. Peterson, ed., Thomas Jefferson: Writings, New York: Library of America, 1994, pp. 900-906.
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post Apr 7 2010, 12:59 PM
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Cunoasterea comunitara, in dialog amical, este cunoastere cu rest - "there is always more to be said". Ceea ce (va explic imediat cum) ma face sa intreb: ce stiti despre Idei in dialog? A murit? (Acum vreo patru ani, Alexander Baumgarten, Solomon Marcus si Cristian Ciocan publicau, in trei numere diferite ale Ideilor, cite un studiu despre "rest" ca problema filozofica. Cel de-al doilea articol poate fi inca citit aici.)


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post Apr 8 2010, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE (polihronu @ Apr 7 2010, 03:59 PM) *
ce stiti despre Idei in dialog? A murit? (Acum vreo patru ani, Alexander Baumgarten, Solomon Marcus si Cristian Ciocan publicau, in trei numere diferite ale Ideilor, cite un studiu despre "rest" ca problema filozofica. Cel de-al doilea articol poate fi inca citit aici.)


(ca cica cam da. fiind si functionar public, HRP nu prea mai avea cum sa conduca si CULTURA si IiD, se zicea la o vreme...

'poi fiind rentabilitatea extrem de scazuta si evenimentele postelectorale, se pare ca R-C si-a subtiat drastic portofoliul.)


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post Apr 30 2010, 09:48 AM
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Cineva a intrat la noi pe forum dupa ce a cautat "cum sa transezi o balena" saptamana trecuta. LOL


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post Apr 30 2010, 10:01 AM
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Am fost curios sa refac traseul smile.gif Intr-adevar, Catar vorbea aici despre Iona si pestele lui, folosind si verbul "a transa" - in sens figurat, desigur.


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post May 11 2010, 07:11 AM
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uite-aici o parte din noi...

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[...] intentia mea nu e sa demolez adventismul [...]


Ceea ce doresc este sa-i ajut pe cei ramasi acolo sa constientizeze faptul ca sunt sclavii unui sistem absolutist, si sa incerce sa-si rupa macar o parte din lanturi. Ceva asemanator cu ceea ce face personajul Neo in filmul Matrix. Sper ca nimeni sa nu se simta jignit, dar acum, din afara, pot spune ca viata din biserica era un calvar.

Poate pentru unii e benefic, si viermele de matase se chinuieste sa roada invelisul si sa devina fluture, poate pentru altii e o pedeapsa pentru pacatele din cine stie ce viata anterioara. Cred ca a venit momentul ca si adventismul din Romania sa iasa din incorsetarile vechi de peste un secol, si sa respire aerul tare al libertatii. Daca ar ajunge macar la nivelul pe care il au fratii din Occident (considerati decadenti) ar avea o satisfactie mult mai mare a vietii personale. Noi, cei din zona balcanica, luam religia prea in serios, dar din pacate nu in esenta ei morala, ci ne agatam de ritualuri (de pilda romancele sunt recunoscute ca fiind cele mai bune practicante de parastasuri din lume).

Revenind la doctrina si la porunca a patra, te rog sa remarci ca nu am exclus-o deloc din decalog, cum au facut restul de neoprotestanti si Martorii, ci incerc sa elimin partea constrangatoare, cea care produce atata nefericire care pana la urma se citeste pe chipurile oamenilor. Isus a dezlegat Sabatul de regulile draconice ale rabinilor si a fost blamat pentru asta; ba mai mult, nu exista nici o afirmatie directa de-a lui care sa impuna respectarea acestei zile, asa ca in final totul ramane la latitudinea noastra, de a folosi cum credem mai bine aceasta zi, fara a ne inchide intre 4 pereti ca la manastire si a umbla cu fetzele crispate de teama ca un alt frate ma poate vedea ca am cumparat o paine si sa ajung in discutia comitetului.

Asemenea practici mostenite din comunism ne impiedica dezvoltarea personalitatii si maturizarea psihica, ramanand la stadiul de copii fricosi, incapabili de a se manifesta in deplinatatea potentialului fiintei noastre si aruncand o umbra asupra relatiei cu Dumnezeu, pe care in subconstient il vedem ca fiind mic, urat si suparat, dar de care ne temem ca de Bin Laden si stam aplecati in fatza lui la 90 de grade. Asta nu are nici o legatura cu iubirea fiindca, dupa cum se spune in prima Epistola a lui Ioan: “In dragoste nu este frica; ci dragostea desavarsita izgoneste frica; pentrru ca frica are cu ea pedeapsa; si cine se teme, n-a ajuns desavarsit in dragoste”
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post May 20 2010, 01:12 PM
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Inca o frantura din ce inteleg eu a fi 'crezul' OSC:



Sursa

PS: Sunt chiar crestine ideile, nu?


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-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to his nephew Peter Carr, from Paris, August 10, 1787; Merrill D. Peterson, ed., Thomas Jefferson: Writings, New York: Library of America, 1994, pp. 900-906.
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post May 20 2010, 02:09 PM
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Amen, amen - spuse anarhistul smile.gif


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post Sep 25 2010, 08:07 PM
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Ar fi fost multe topicuri la care as fi putut posta acest fragment din scrisoarea lui Thomas Jeferson catre nepotul sau Peter Carr, cea din care provine si citatul care-mi este drept semnatura. Pana la urma m-am decis asupra celui de fata pentru ca imi place sa-mi iau drept ideal libertatea de gandire pe care pionierul american o incurajeaza:

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Do not be frightened from this inquiry [concerning religion, especially Christianity] by any fear of its consequences. If it ends in a belief that there is no God, you will find incitements to virtue in the comfort and pleasantness you feel in its exercise, and the love of others which it will procure you. If you find reason to believe there is a God, a consciousness that you are acting under his eye, & that he approves you, will be a vast additional incitement; if that there be a future state, the hope of a happy existence in that increases the appetite to deserve it; if that Jesus was also a God, you will be comforted by a belief of his aid and love. In fine, I repeat, you must lay aside all prejudice on both sides, and neither believe nor reject anything, because any other persons, or description of persons, have rejected or believed it. Your own reason is the only oracle given you by heaven, and you are answerable, not for the rightness, but uprightness of the decision. I forgot to observe, when speaking of the New Testament, that you should read all the histories of Christ, as well of those whom a council of ecclesiastics have decided for us, to be Pseudo-evangelists, as those they named Evangelists. Because these Pseudo-evangelists pretended to inspiration, as much as the others, and you are to judge their pretensions by your own reason, and not by the reason of those ecclesiastics. Most of these are lost. There are some, however, still extant, collected by Fabricius, which I will endeavor to get & send you.

Sursa: sectiunea despre religie din aceasta scrisoare.


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"Pioneering DNA scientist Rosalind Franklin would've turned 93 today [25 July]; sadly, she passed away at just 37 years of age after a battle with cancer. This is an excerpt of a letter she wrote to her religious father in 1940."



Sursa: Letters of Note, pagina de pe Facebook


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-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to his nephew Peter Carr, from Paris, August 10, 1787; Merrill D. Peterson, ed., Thomas Jefferson: Writings, New York: Library of America, 1994, pp. 900-906.
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Your theories are those which you and many other people find easiest and pleasantest to believe, but so far as I can see, they have no foundation other than they lead to a pleasanter view of life (and an exaggerated idea of our own importance)…

Florin Laiu (and too many others), in a nutshell.


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Ce-i cu caciula aia de Mos Craciun pe logo? Avem o predilectie pentru personaje imaginare? sarcastic_blum.gif
N-ar trebui sa fie o iesle, ceva? Put Christ back in Christmas!



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post Dec 5 2013, 09:40 PM
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Nu e caciula de Mos Craciun, e caciula de craciunita, si stim ca la toti ne plac craciunitele air_kiss.gif


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