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post Mar 14 2010, 09:58 AM
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sursa: http://www.gandul.info/news/clericii-divor...e-sotii-5742788

Adio slujbe, adio parohii pentru prelatii divortati sau recasatoriti. Potrivit unei hotarari a Sfantului Sinod al Bisericii Ortodoxe Romane, clericii divortati sau recasatoriti sunt sanctionati cu depunere din treapta preotiei. In plus, ei nu pot ocupa posturi de conducere in administratia bisericeasca, nu pot primi ranguri bisericesti si nici preda in invatamantul teologic preuniversitar sau universitar.
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post Mar 14 2010, 10:22 AM
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Apropo de clericii parasiti de consoarte: se pare ca si Benny Hinn, "miracolog" si gospel-showman e intr-o pozitie destul de delicata http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/288180


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post Apr 19 2010, 11:17 AM
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vreau sa va dau ceva de privit:



integral online, incepand cu asta.

si va rog io frumos... si mult... si bun... hai sa povestim nitel dup-aia.


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post Apr 19 2010, 12:27 PM
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TriX,
M-am distrat de modul hazliu cum ai dat tu sfoara in intreaga tzara a OSC-ului, pacat ca videoclipul recomandat de tine este atat de trist si de natura sa starneasca pana la culmi indignarea.

Nu-mi arde acum sa intru in detaliile secventelor, dar dat fiind ca acele faze reunite in clipul trimis de tine provin din filmul Jesus Camp, as vrea sa va trimit spre inregistrarea in care Bill Maher discuta pe marginea acestui film impreuna cu cei trei invitati ai sai - Sandy Rios de la Fox News, Reza Aslan, Middle-East Analyst, CBS News si autor al cartii No God but God si Bradley Whitford, actor. In opinia mea Reza Aslan merita laude pentru prestatia sa din aceasta emisiune, a fost echilibrat, si profund si comic. Se pare ca si cartea sa a primit aprecieri din belsug.



Pentru ca subiectul violentei incitate de textele religioase ne vine in minte cand urmarim secventele din 'Jesus Camp', vreau sa va indic ceva ce de multa vreme voiam sa impartasesc cu voi, anume 'Is The Bible More Violent Than The Quran?' difuzat de NPR (National Public Radio) la rubrica News. Cititi transcriptul daca nu aveti timp, dar cel mai bine ar fi sa ascultati cele 7 minute cat dureaza transmisiunea excelent narata de Barbara Bradley Hagerty si presarata in punctele cheie cu interventii din partea lui Philip Jenkins, istoric al religiilor, profesor la Penn State University si autor al recentei si controversatei carti Jesus Wars, Andrew Bostom, editor al The Legacy of Jihad, si Waleed El-Ansary, care preda studii islamice la University of South Carolina.

Partea finala a transmisiunii o citez aici, mai ales ca faptele prezentate in 'Jesus Camp' par sa confirme existenta tulpinilor fanatico-violente si in crestinism:

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El-Ansary says we are seeing more religious violence from Muslims now because the Islamic world is far more religious than is the West. Still, Jenkins says Judeo-Christian cultures shouldn't be smug. The Bible has plenty of violence.

"The scriptures are still there, dormant, but not dead," he says, "and they can be resurrected at any time. Witness the white supremacists who cite the murderous Phineas when calling for racial purity, or an anti-abortion activist when shooting a doctor who performs abortions.

In the end, the scholars can agree on one thing: The DNA of early Judaism, Christianity and Islam code for a lot of violence. Whether they can evolve out of it is another thing altogether.


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post Apr 19 2010, 01:50 PM
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Nu stiu daca v-am mai zis, dar eu urmaresc Real Time religiously smile.gif Oarecum paradoxal (dat fiind agnosticismul notoriu al lui Bill Maher), show-ul asta mi-a furnizat unele dintre cele mai profunde si utile discutii despre religie.


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post Apr 19 2010, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE (polihronu @ Apr 19 2010, 04:50 PM) *
Nu stiu daca v-am mai zis, dar eu urmaresc Real Time religiously smile.gif Oarecum paradoxal (dat fiind ateismul notoriu al lui Bill Maher), show-ul asta mi-a furnizat unele dintre cele mai profunde si utile discutii despre religie.


Eu tocmai ma gandeam sa ma scuz ca vin cu fragmentul din emisiunea lui Maher. Bine ca n-am zis nimic. tongue.gif Glumesc!
Dar e adevarat ca desi am auzit multe critici la adresa lui Maher, partea asta pe care am vizionat-o e chiar educativa si bine realizata. Inca ceva - voiai de fapt sa zici ca il urmaresti religulously, nu? biggrin.gif

LE: Dixit Maher in interviul spre care va indreapta linkul anterior si care se gaseste transcris aici:
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I mean, religion to me is a giant elephant in the room of comic gold because, you know, we're talking about garden with a talking snake. If you can't find humor there. People are just used to it, that's why they don't laugh at it. So it's a very funny movie. It's a comedy. It's not really a documentary but, yes, I also think there's an important point to be made and that does have to do with doubt.


Sa nu uit - in acelasi interviu se declara agnostic si nu ateu:
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I don't like the word atheist because to me it mirrors the certainty of religion. I preach the gospel of I don't know.


Iar in contextul micii dispute din curtea noastra, a OSC-ului, despre esenta crestinismului se potriveste destul de bine incheierea interviului:
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SMITH: Here's the thing that was an underlying thought. And this -- a serious thought, I thought. In the movie was you wish that Christians were more -- if they were really going to be Christians, would be more Christ-like?

MAHER: Don't we all? I think everybody -- I mean, that's something I don't think is even controversial that the message of Jesus, which is very good. It's about love and, you know, forgiveness. It's certainly not about shooting wolves from an airplane. That gets lost with all the nonsense and the bells and whistles.

SMITH: [Loud Laughter] There you go. Bill Maher, thank you so much. .'Religulous' is the movie.


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-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to his nephew Peter Carr, from Paris, August 10, 1787; Merrill D. Peterson, ed., Thomas Jefferson: Writings, New York: Library of America, 1994, pp. 900-906.
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post Apr 19 2010, 02:30 PM
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Da, mi-a scapat smile.gif Hm, daca nu ii stii show-ul, merita sa degusti segmentul final din fiecare editie - New Rules. E hilarious, penetrant si spot on, most of the times.

LE Intr-adevar, Bill se considera agnostic (am corectat postul anterior). Majoritatea nu face insa diferenta, mai ales cind il vede promovind personaje ca Hitchens si Dawkins.


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post Apr 22 2010, 07:55 AM
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QUOTE (study_nature @ Apr 19 2010, 03:27 PM) *


bun.

acuma, despre asta ce zici/ziceti?

de data asta, nu mai e din gradina altora...


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post May 13 2010, 08:34 PM
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Mirati-va putin si pe asta:



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post May 13 2010, 08:37 PM
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Si asta e cireasca de pe tort.
Evanghelistul care trage "vanturi" sfinte.



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post May 13 2010, 08:47 PM
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Oh, man. Ratele la apa si dementii la televizor - si unele, si altii in mediul lor natural. Naspa.


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post May 13 2010, 09:03 PM
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Bun, dar asta ma gandesc ca e lucru normal pentru cei din jurul lor, nu?
Ca altfel nu ar fi prin biserici sau televiziuni crestine.


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post May 13 2010, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE (eretik @ May 13 2010, 11:37 PM) *
Si asta e cireasca de pe tort.
Evanghelistul care trage "vanturi" sfinte.
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Asta e din categoria mentionata in postul scris de mine aici si in penultima din lista in a doua fotografie smile.gif. Sau ma rog daca nu dupa cum e titlul, macar ceva miresme.
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QUOTE (eretik @ May 13 2010, 08:37 PM) *
Si asta e cireasca de pe tort.
Evanghelistul care trage "vanturi" sfinte.

Apropo de asta, se pare ca "vanturile sfinte" sunt o parodie, cel putin asa zice wiki. Faza cu tipatul e for real, si omul are intr-adevar idei ciudate, cum ar fi aceea ca imbaierea folosind sapun cu ulei de masline te vindeca de cancer, SIDA si orice alte dureri. Alte miracole care sustine ca s-au intamplat in cursul "misiunii" lui sunt aparitia de bani pe neasteptate, fara motiv, pentru cei care cred, si rezolvarea problemelor maritale. Multi pretind ca s-au vindecat in cursul "terapiilor" tipatoare prin rugaciune pe care le tine la TV de tot soiul de boli. wacko.gif

Sursa: wiki


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post May 28 2010, 11:53 AM
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am primit zilele trecute un mail foarte misto. iar adineauri tocmai am cautat detalii despre continutul cu pricina.

http://www.froginawell.net/china/2008/04/e...-west/#more-398


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post May 28 2010, 12:14 PM
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chiar ca e misto chestia asta . Ma cam pune pi ganduri. Ma intreb daca chinezii care traiesc acilea in Jermania, imprumuta de la nemti sau raman cu zestrea adusa.


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post Jun 7 2010, 12:31 PM
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Ce parere aveti despre aceasta radiografie a invatamantului superior din Romania?

In Marginea Fostei Dezbateri Despre Invatamintul Din Romania

Am aflat de acest text via blogul lui Istodor.


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QUOTE (study_nature @ Jun 7 2010, 03:31 PM) *
Ce parere aveti despre aceasta radiografie a invatamantului superior din Romania?


pai zi-mi ce anume te intereseaza! smile.gif

btw: forma corecta (potrivit dex-ului, indreptarului etc.) e "proroc", nu "prooroc" asa dupa cum apare in text si in cele mai multe scrierile bisericesti.


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Va lasasem libertatea in compozitie, dar uite ce as enumera ca posibile subiecte de discutie smile.gif

-mecanismele prin care s-a produs scaderea in ansamblu a cunostintelor celor instruiti de sistem (identificate in text ca fiind in primul rand introducerea taxei si scoaterea admiterii)
-situarea UniBuc si UniBa-Bo in topurile universitatilor
-seria de studii de caz: incompetentul conducator de doctorat vs. cei doi oameni simpli, dar cititi
-sumbrele profetii


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QUOTE (study_nature @ Jun 8 2010, 08:25 AM) *
-mecanismele prin care s-a produs scaderea in ansamblu a cunostintelor celor instruiti de sistem (identificate in text ca fiind in primul rand introducerea taxei si scoaterea admiterii)


E mai usor acum sa termini o facultate decat sa absolvi liceul. Da, scoaterea examenelor de admitere, cresterea exagerata a numarului de locuri si introducerea taxei a determinat scaderea alarmanta a nivelului de pregatire a studentilor. Nu spun ca nu exista si studenti buni, dar, cand vezi ca unii care nu-s capabili sa scrie macar corect in limba romana sunt absolventi de litere, incepi sa te intrebi cine sunt idiotii care i-au acceptat (personal, nu mi-a venit sa cred cand am vazut in ce hal siluiesti limba romana Iacob Coman - doctor in...). In urma cu vreo cativa ani, am intervievat un copil de 24 de ani, absolvent al facultatii de constructii. Dorea sa fie angajat si cerea 2000 de euro/luna, net. Imi pare rau ca nu am pastrat CV-ul lui: ai fi zis ca e scris la bautura.
Andrei Cornea se plangea ca studentii nu stiau sa ia notite la curs, ci scriau tot ceea ce el spunea, rugandu-l sa le dicteze mai incet! Cand a intrebat pe cei din anul I ce este un arabesc, din vreo 70 cati erau prezenti, toti intrati cu medii peste 9, niciunul n-a fost capabil sa raspunda corect.

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-situarea UniBuc si UniBa-Bo in topurile universitatilor


Pai, noi, romanii, inca traim cu ideea ca se face scoala cum se facea inainte de 1989. Si ne mai hranim cu iluzia ca sistemul nostru e cel care da olimpici internationali. Degeaba sunt cativa de elita, daca marea majoritate e la pamant. Univ Bucuresti si UBB sunt pe locurile meritate.

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-seria de studii de caz: incompetentul conducator de doctorat vs. cei doi oameni simpli, dar cititi


Pai, ce sa spun? Multi prosti cu diploma. Problema e ca astia ne educa odraslele.

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-sumbrele profetii


Sumbre? Doar normale. In ritmul asta sar putea ca cei kra o sa fie membri la akdemie sa skimbe xc regulile de ortografie corecta si gramatik iar noi kre am prins skoala asta veke sa fim trimisi direkt la pensie.


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